Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with South African filmmaker, author, and activist Dr. Ernst Roets. They discuss the genetic and cultural hyper-diversity of Africa, the early settlement patterns of South Africa, the origin story of the Boers, how forgotten history breeds rhyming conflicts in the present, and the complex needle that must be threaded for shared prosperity.
Dr. Ernst Roets is an Afrikaner activist, author and filmmaker from South Africa. He serves as Executive Director of the newly established Pioneer Initiative, which seeks to promote a more sustainable political dispensation for South Africa, based on the principles of decentralization and self-governance. Dr Roets is the leading expert on the topic of farm murders in South Africa. His book, Kill the Boer: Government Complicity in South Africa’s Brutal Farm Murders is an international bestseller on Amazon. He is also the producer of several documentary films. He regularly appears in the media – both in South Africa and the international media – about issues relating to South Africa and he regularly speaks at international conferences, including CPAC and NatCon. He is a leading advocate for the protection of free speech and property rights in South Africa, and for farm murders to be regarded as a priority crime.
This episode was filmed on March, 14th, 2025.
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Read “Kill the Boer: Government Complicity in South Africa’s Brutal Farm Murders” https://a.co/d/cMWyuMH
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(0:00) Coming up
(1:01) Intro
(3:48) Early settlement patterns in South Africa
(6:35) Who are the Bushmen?
(12:38) 1652: Enter the British
(15:52) “We skipped the enlightenment”
(22:39) Conflict and Cooperation: The Afrikaner story is remarkably similar to the American pioneer story
(25:20) The Zulu King’s betrayal, the vow, and the Battle of Blood River
(31:33) Rapid population growth across three hundred years
(35:08) Rebutting the typical western colonial narrative, clashing cultural views on property rights
(39:32) Warfare technology: stirrups effectively made horses into tanks
(43:22) The western obsession with self-loathing
(48:08) Returning to how the enlightenment “skipped” Africa, what led to the destruction of Rome
(53:12) You cannot force a frame of reference—bridging multiplicity for shared flourishing
(56:36) The dismantling of the apartheid system: like riding on the back of a tiger
(1:01:43) Safe but not sustainable: the rise of socialist solutions and why they’re failing
(1:07:09) The cost of innovation is inequality—things have to start somewhere
(1:09:12) The ship is headed in the wrong direction… and sinking
(1:11:23) How South Africa destabilized in just ten years, “blame the pipes”
(1:18:43) “Kill the Boers,” what it means and why it’s a deadly statement
(1:27:12) Shameful: the hierarchy of recognition
(1:31:11) President Trump’s impact on global acknowledgment
(1:33:26) What the west can offer South Africa
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