Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with entrepreneur and software pioneer, Marc Andreessen. They discuss the timeline of the woke institutional takeover, the ruinous effects it has had on Western ideology and business, the ways in which AI will shape society, and the immense responsibility we have to instill the future with an ethos and morality that serves human flourishing.
Marc Andreessen is a cofounder and general partner at the venture capital firm Andreessen Horowitz. He is an innovator and creator, one of the few to pioneer a software category used by more than a billion people and one of the few to establish multiple billion-dollar companies. Marc co-created the highly influential Mosaic internet browser and co-founded Netscape, which later sold to AOL for $4.2 billion. He also co-founded Loudcloud, which as Opsware, sold to Hewlett-Packard for $1.6 billion. He later served on the board of Hewlett-Packard from 2008 to 2018.
Marc holds a B.S. in computer science from the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. Marc serves on the board of the following Andreessen Horowitz portfolio companies: Applied Intuition, Carta, Coinbase, Dialpad, Flow, Golden, Honor, OpenGov, Samsara, Simple Things, and TipTop Labs. He is also on the board of Meta.
This episode was filmed on December 18th, 2024.
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(0:00) Coming up
(0:42) Intro
(3:44) Parallel alignments between “The Techno-Optimist Manifesto” and the Alliance for Responsible Citizenship
(11:35) The unconstrained vision is a problem with humans, not AI
(14:00) “Orwell’s Revenge,” freedom and expression
(17:30) The problem of alignment with large language models, a false narrative being dominant will corrupt
(26:20) Why are the AIs woke? — “they’re being specifically trained to behave this way”
(33:48) “Socializing” AI
(37:45) De-facto cartels are ideologically driving our government, our schools, our technology…
(40:48) AI safety panic and the unfortunate likelihood of a government formed monolith
(44:47) The worshippers of power
(48:26) ARC: the story that will guide us to a prosperous future
(51:27) Using AI to untangle the core idea sets of free and abundant societies
(54:30) Recognizing red flags on the inside: why Andreessen speaks against the woke business takeover
(59:06) Brian Armstrong: companies need to focus on their mission, not every mission of society
(1:02:00) “The deal” — the unspoken political and social norms of big business
(1:06:39) Activated: What happened in 2017?
(1:11:35) The mass demoralization pipeline
(1:17:28) “They thought employee mobs were going to burn the place down”
(1:19:42) Dr. Peterson’s experience with activists at Penguin Random House
(1:23:02) Social media enables a pattern of aggression often associated with the feminine
(1:28:53) Can we safeguard emerging technology from government pressure?
(1:30:54) Mandated representation has a multiplicity problem — and it’s illegal
(1:39:03) IQ research shows racial disparities, making the government hiring mandates a catch-22
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