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Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with the 13th Prime Minister of Israel, Naftali Bennett. They discuss the internal divisions of Israel, how October 7th refocused the nation, the means by which the Islamic Republic of Iran operates its industry of terror, the victim/victimizer narrative, and what victory might actually look like.
Naftali Bennett is an Israeli politician who entered politics in 2006 as the Chief of Staff for Benjamin Netanyahu. From 2018 to 2022 he served as the leader of the New Right party. Then from June 2021 to June 2022, he served as the 13th prime minister of Israel. He retired after one term, becoming the 3rd alternate Prime Minister. He then resigned from this position and re-entered the private sphere as a board member of the Israeli tech company Quantum Source.
This episode was recorded on September 25th, 2024
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(0:00) Coming up
(0:30) Intro
(2:41) Naftali Bennett’s role in the political landscape of Israel
(8:13) Manufactured divisiveness and the three issues most Israelis agree on
(13:16) The rebound effect, righting the ship internally
(18:16) The Second Intifada
(23:11) The view from the outside: Iran, Palestine, and the Abraham Accords
(28:22) The Islamic Republic operates as an “octopus of terror”
(34:02) The international community is not doing enough
(36:13) How the worst actors operate: pathology and manipulation
(39:04) Separating the genuine religion from radical Islam, defeating Hamas
(46:15) The grounds for functional democracy, the Talmud encourages debate
(51:49) How an existential threat focuses a nation
(59:46) Marriage, family, and duty – the time is now
(1:04:31) The third Jewish state
(1:06:27) October 7th: how it happened
(1:12:40) Origins and operations of the Muslim Brotherhood
(1:15:29) Israel’s response and what victory looks like
(1:20:43) The victim/victimizer mind virus
(1:26:00) Why are so many people against Israel? The politics of envy
(1:31:10) How the Jews are characterized in the Old Testament, the promised land and the desert
(1:38:02) Bennett’s message to the misguided progressives who support Hamas
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