Jordan Peterson sits down with actor, podcaster, and commentator Russell Brand. They discuss turning to Christ, the benefits of orienting yourself toward a proper center (rather than centering yourself), how Donald Trump has shaken up the world stage, and what it means to cross the “edgelands” and make it back alive.
Russell Brand is an English comedian, actor, activist, podcaster and commentator. He first established himself as a stand-up comedian and radio host before becoming a film actor. He presented for MTV UK and made appearances across media and TV (including a stint on “Big Brother”) throughout the 2000s. In 2008, he leapt from British to U.S. film acting, appearing in the hit film “Forgetting Sarah Marshall,” followed by numerous international successes. In 2013, Brand guest-edited an edition of the weekly publication the New Statesman, launching his interest and later career as a political activist and commentator. Over the years, Brand has changed in his thinking, from establishment advocate to establishment critic. His current podcast, “Stay Free,” sees Brand calling out major news, governments, and corporations for affronts to free speech, expression, and thought.
This episode was filmed on January 10th, 2025.
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(0:00) Coming up
(0:43) Intro
(3:13) Russell’s progress toward Christianity, attitude, and orientation
(10:08) Why invitation will win over force
(12:22) The concept of “play” seen on the world stage, systems for understanding God
(17:00) Interviewing Pierre Poilievre ahead of the press, video vs. the written word
(25:53) Brand recounts his days of idol worship and his encounter with something absolute — “the self has to go”
(33:14) Narcissism is subjugation to a fragmented whim: “it’s self defeating”
(36:03) What every single Bible story directly points to
(43:30) The immense benefits of centering Christ before yourself
(48:03) We need to take risks and make mistakes in order to grow
(52:17) Tolstoy’s reflections on suicidal despair, encountering the edgelands
(1:04:04) “God showed me it was meaningless,” facing backlash and turmoil after turning from hedonism
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