Ep. 330
Dr Jordan B Peterson and Roy Sebag discuss financial investing, the intrinsic value of gold, and man’s relationship to wealth and the natural world.
Roy Sebag is a self-made entrepreneur who has innovated across multiple industries. He is the author of the newly published book “The Natural Order of Money” which is about the intrinsic relationship between people, money, and nature.
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Roy Sebag’s Jewelry Company Mene: https://www.mene.com/
Goldmoney Precious Metals Investment: https://www.goldmoney.com/
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(0:00) Coming up
(1:09) Intro
(3:00) Early Investing, writing Warren Buffet
(10:30) Aiming for Alpha
(12:15) Old-school views of macroeconomics
(13:00) Stocks versus commodities
(15:01) Stocks against time
(17:32) Why value investing is insufficient
(19:56) What constitutes value
(20:50) Economics as a means of truth
(21:30) Elitism in trading
(23:00) Mining and call options
(25:50) Buying toward intrinsic utility
(29:01) Permanence and decay
(32:01) Abundance and intrinsic value
(37:28) The allure of gold, the growing shortage
(40:22) At odds with modern economics
(45:30) A theology of wealth, material and spiritual
(49:00) Let nature take its course
(51:23) Returns from the land, working with it
(53:00) The two classes, artisans and aristocrats
(56:30) Proxy commodities: emblems and essence
(1:02:01) Pre and post subsistence
(1:03:00) Jewelry as a token of memory
(1:04:58) Newton, alchemy, and the gold standard
(1:07:45) You must produce for the privilege to consume
(1:12:03) The energy crisis, war in Europe
(1:15:00) Order and divine unity
(1:17:10) The Natural Order of Money
(1:22:03) The natural economy
(1:26:32) Work and leisure: a broken balance
(1:29:37) Entropy as the degenerative force in nature
(1:32:03) Sustainable games
(1:38:50) Superior money
(1:44:01) Logical errors
(1:47:47) The true loss in centralization
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